Contract vinyl on treads and risers

Discussion in 'Vinyl / Impervious floor coverings' started by Samson, Mar 3, 2018.

  1. Samson

    Samson Well-Known Member

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    Got some treads and risers to do on a couple of flights of new chipboard stairs in a shop in heavy duty vinyl. Nosings being fitted after treads and risers are stuck. Would you guys:

    a/ prime chipboard
    b/ skim chipboard
    c/ ply chipboard
    d/ prime and skim chipboard
    e/ glue with f44
    f/ glue with contact
    g/ glue direct to chipboard

    While I realise that ply would be the ideal choice, to ply all treads and risers will add a huge time factor that we haven't costed in, and seems to be overkill.
     
  2. merit

    merit Well-Known Member

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    I would want a guarantee from the adhesive manufacturer that the adhesive will work on chipboard. Uzin do some interesting adhesives for stairs. Might be worth a look into


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  3. Samson

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    F.Ball say:

    STYCCOBOND F44 can be applied to STOPGAP smoothing underlayments, structurally sound, smooth, dry subfloors of concrete and sand/cement screed, plywood, flooring grade chipboard and hardboard.

    My concern is if I will get enough grab on the risers to stop the vinyl curling or falling off. And would contact adhesive migrate through and turn a beige coloured vinyl yellow (plasticiser migration)?
     
  4. Rugmunching

    Rugmunching Well-Known Member

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    I'd ply them but if you really don't want to then If they are nice and flat (smooth) I'd prime, let it dry off completely then f44 them on. Some will disagree no doubt but heyyyy hooooo...

    ....If it's XL you fitting then I wouldnt bother and I'd turn my phone off!! ;)
     
  5. Neilydun

    Neilydun Well-Known Member

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    I would use F61, straight on it with a notch spreader
     
  6. Neilydun

    Neilydun Well-Known Member

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    And some mini cove
     
  7. Spacey

    Spacey Super Moderator Staff Member

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    Should over plyd
    If Your lucky and all the stairs are all of a simlar size you can make one or two temples and cut the lot in one go with a plunge saw and rail cutting multiple sheets at once.

    Some new chip boards are produced in a different way and you can actually stick directly to them but you need to check the spec. If it’s the traditional green type it will stick initially but could fail over time
     
  8. Samson

    Samson Well-Known Member

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    Was going to but there are some winders.
     
  9. Nick58

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    Geminis gold contact sprayer might be a option
     
  10. merit

    merit Well-Known Member

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    This guy, I hope I never have to take up a floor you’ve laid. Hate it when stairs have been put on with contact adhesive. Pull the stairs apart when you have to remove it! I know I know it’s not your problem lol


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  11. tarkett85

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    I’d always overply, I never trust chipboard seen a fair few failures before even when everything was done properly except plying out.


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  12. Neilydun

    Neilydun Well-Known Member

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    lol, we have been doing the gym floors for about 8 years now, and they have awarded us a lot of refit work. This will be on a rolling 5 year contract, so we are having to take up a fair bit of stuff we fitted before.
    I`d still use F61.....
     
  13. merit

    merit Well-Known Member

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    Bet you get the boys to do the take up lol


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  14. Neilydun

    Neilydun Well-Known Member

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    Oh yes....
     

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